Kefir Forum

  • Cindy Wheeler Way

    Hi everyone… I have enjoyed store bought kefir with no side effects but recently started making my own and have immediate slight nausea and bloating –then loose stool…is this normal?? should I stick with it to see if it goes away?? I have not had any gut in the past and have no problem with dairy. Thanks!!

  • Chad

    Can I replace milk with milk kefir? I drink quite a bit of milk but it seems that kefir would be a bit more healthy. Thoughts?

  • Leslie Morantine

    Yes indeed you can freeze them. I’m working with a batch now that
    have been frozen almost a year. I’ve been culturing milk kefir for
    about 4-5 years now. You have to boil a large pot of water and let it
    cool to room temp, use that to rinse your grains very well of all milk.
    I take 2 layers of thick paper towel and place rinsed grains on that,
    then blot with more paper towel (gently) and let them air dry a few
    minutes only. Then take a large zip-loc freezer bag and Carnation
    Instant Nonfat Powdered Milk and pour the powder into the bag and place
    your grains inside let the dry powered milk coat your grains really
    well. Add more dry powdered milk, don’t be stingy with this as it will
    protect your grains. Push all air out of bag and seal it take a marker
    and write date on bag. Put in top shelf of the door of your freezer
    and don’t let anything get laid on top of it. I have successfully
    frozen kefir grains for 6 months they bounce back very quickly. It’s
    great to be able to take a break from culturing, but now I’m craving
    kefir and can’t wait until mine start to form pockets of whey. I have
    another batch in my freezer I’m going to work with this December to see
    if they can revive after being frozen 1-1/2 years. If you want my
    instructions I’ve written on how to bring them back (you have to use
    less milk and very gradually increase ratio of milk to grains) write me
    at and I’ll send you a copy of my booklet I’ve

  • Anthony

    Hello, Not sure if people still use this forum but I have a quick question. I just realized that I have been mistaken curds with kefir grains this whole time. How do I decipher between grains and curds? I strain it all through and I get small white, cloudy puffs and I don’t know if there grains or curds. I fear I may have thrown the grains out when i over fermented and now im just creating curds instead of actual kefir. Is that possible? please help, Thanks!

    • Blue

      The curds will break up when squeezed or crushed, while the grains will be more like a sponge (jelly-like almost) and retain their shape somewhat. It may be hard to tell with the smaller grains though. I personally don´t bother with the small grains since I have enough large ones for my own fermentation. Unlike the norm, I also do not use a sieve to strain my kefir, I ferment the kefir in a mason jar overnight and just dump it all into a bowl and scoop out all the grains with a spoon. It may be possible that even if you have thrown out all the grains that the curds you have been saving will still have the kefir bacteria in them. Does it still taste like kefir? But you would have to see if the kefir ferments or not in your next batch, you may need new grains.

      • Anthony

        Thanks a lot for the response! I really appreciate it. The next batch did taste like kefir. I think I’m down to very small grains or possible just the bacteria on the curds(seems hard to tell, as you said) I going to keep trying and see if they grow, if not, Ill have to order some new grains. Thanks again.

    • gentlehands

      I have the same issue. When I strain it, I never have cauliflower-gummy grains grow, just soft lumps (curds?) and whey. They both taste good, continue making more and are useful but wonder If I’m getting the full benefits of kefir. I am doing all the proper things. Will they ever grow. ccurred to me that I may have mesophyllic yogurt not kefir. Thoughts?

  • Stefan

    Can anyone tell me if they’ve had this happen to their kefir whey?
    If so, is the whey still safe to use?

    • Blue

      In my experiences of kefir making, I have never seen this before. Even when I over-ferment. I would not try to use this.

  • Naomi

    So have have been making & drinking water Kefir for about 3 weeks. I love it! The first week I felt sick but I figured it was because my gut has been so screwed up from taking antibiotics all the time for sinus infections. The 2nd week was a lot better. I started loosing weight & have way more energy. So now I’m at week 3 & have lost 10lbs. But my face feels flushed & sometimes inflamed in the sinuses. I was told by my doctor I have airborne allergies to 2 grasses, 2 types of dust, American Cockroaches & cat hair. Now I constantly keep my house clean & have my cats groomed regularly. Besides, the allergist said after awhile you get immune to your cats. They are 9 & 4. Also take Nasocort & Zyrtec daily.

    Now have read that Kefir helps with allergies & I am wondering if the sinus issues are actually a die-off process in my face & not really an allergy issue. Another reason I think it might be die-off is I haven’t had any vertigo issues like I normally do since I have the inner ear disease Meniere’s.

    Anyone else have or had the same issue?